Backup solution suggestions wanted
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@angrydok said:
My backup software is Appassure
are you kidding me
I've had it for 8 years, plus 8 years ago (well, and still today) I had 3 physical hosts.
I'm perfect for the Essentials Veeam offerings once I ditch the the physical hosts. But now I've got @hubtechagain telling me about Altaro which is nearly half the price of Veeam Essentials per host. Testing and decisions to make.
In either case, I need to make sure Exchange is supported until 2017 when I'll probably kick it to O365.
Currently my yearly maintenance costs for Appassure run me close to the full cost of Veeam Essentials - I'm sure I'll be leaving them when renewal time comes along.
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@Dashrender said:
@angrydok said:
My backup software is Appassure
are you kidding me
I've had it for 8 years, plus 8 years ago (well, and still today) I had 3 physical hosts.
I'm perfect for the Essentials Veeam offerings once I ditch the the physical hosts. But now I've got @hubtechagain telling me about Altaro which is nearly half the price of Veeam Essentials per host. Testing and decisions to make.
In either case, I need to make sure Exchange is supported until 2017 when I'll probably kick it to O365.
Currently my yearly maintenance costs for Appassure run me close to the full cost of Veeam Essentials - I'm sure I'll be leaving them when renewal time comes along.
Why wait till 2017 to move to O365? With DirSync and other tools, you can have SSO and all the joys of on premise, and not have to worry about a physical device.
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@gjacobse said:
Why wait till 2017 to move to O365? With DirSync and other tools, you can have SSO and all the joys of on premise, and not have to worry about a physical device.
Because I am already paying a three year SA Open License agreement for my current setup that expires in 2017.
Also, before I can even consider moving, I have to either move most if not all users to OWA or fully implement a complete replacement system for our current calendaring system for physician calendars that will sync with iPhone/iPad/Android.
Outlook cached mode is completely unusable for us. I quickly discovered when we converted from Domino to Exchange that cached mode wasn't anywhere near real time when updating other people's calendars. We require realtime (or very very close to) updates so that all 80+ people viewing calendars are aware of changes/updates, etc. OWA or a third party would work for this, but O365 with Outlook in non cached mode I would only image would be a horrible experience.
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@Dashrender I may have a somewhat self-serving answer here. Not sure it's exactly what you're looking for, but have you tried R1Soft?
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@Dashrender said:
@gjacobse said:
Why wait till 2017 to move to O365? With DirSync and other tools, you can have SSO and all the joys of on premise, and not have to worry about a physical device.
Because I am already paying a three year SA Open License agreement for my current setup that expires in 2017.
Also, before I can even consider moving, I have to either move most if not all users to OWA or fully implement a complete replacement system for our current calendaring system for physician calendars that will sync with iPhone/iPad/Android.
Outlook cached mode is completely unusable for us. I quickly discovered when we converted from Domino to Exchange that cached mode wasn't anywhere near real time when updating other people's calendars. We require realtime (or very very close to) updates so that all 80+ people viewing calendars are aware of changes/updates, etc. OWA or a third party would work for this, but O365 with Outlook in non cached mode I would only image would be a horrible experience.
Have you tried Sharepoint Online shared calendars. I'm fairly certain they can readily sync with an Android/iOS device. Maybe not as a primary calendar but then again your third party app wouldn't be primary either.
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@Dashrender I am sure you'll test that before the purchase, so I have almost no doubts you will decide to go with us
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@gjacobse said:
Why wait till 2017 to move to O365? With DirSync and other tools, you can have SSO and all the joys of on premise, and not have to worry about a physical device.
Because I am already paying a three year SA Open License agreement for my current setup that expires in 2017.
Also, before I can even consider moving, I have to either move most if not all users to OWA or fully implement a complete replacement system for our current calendaring system for physician calendars that will sync with iPhone/iPad/Android.
Outlook cached mode is completely unusable for us. I quickly discovered when we converted from Domino to Exchange that cached mode wasn't anywhere near real time when updating other people's calendars. We require realtime (or very very close to) updates so that all 80+ people viewing calendars are aware of changes/updates, etc. OWA or a third party would work for this, but O365 with Outlook in non cached mode I would only image would be a horrible experience.
Have you tried Sharepoint Online shared calendars. I'm fairly certain they can readily sync with an Android/iOS device. Maybe not as a primary calendar but then again your third party app wouldn't be primary either.
That would have been my recommendation as well.
Exchange is designed around a set of users. Sharepoint is designed to share, hence it's name. And you can integrate them together
http://blogs.technet.com/b/ptsblog/archive/2011/05/31/sharepoint-and-exchange-calendar-together.aspx
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@PSX_Defector said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@gjacobse said:
Why wait till 2017 to move to O365? With DirSync and other tools, you can have SSO and all the joys of on premise, and not have to worry about a physical device.
Because I am already paying a three year SA Open License agreement for my current setup that expires in 2017.
Also, before I can even consider moving, I have to either move most if not all users to OWA or fully implement a complete replacement system for our current calendaring system for physician calendars that will sync with iPhone/iPad/Android.
Outlook cached mode is completely unusable for us. I quickly discovered when we converted from Domino to Exchange that cached mode wasn't anywhere near real time when updating other people's calendars. We require realtime (or very very close to) updates so that all 80+ people viewing calendars are aware of changes/updates, etc. OWA or a third party would work for this, but O365 with Outlook in non cached mode I would only image would be a horrible experience.
Have you tried Sharepoint Online shared calendars. I'm fairly certain they can readily sync with an Android/iOS device. Maybe not as a primary calendar but then again your third party app wouldn't be primary either.
That would have been my recommendation as well.
Exchange is designed around a set of users. Sharepoint is designed to share, hence it's name. And you can integrate them together
http://blogs.technet.com/b/ptsblog/archive/2011/05/31/sharepoint-and-exchange-calendar-together.aspx
Yep, they can also be shared as CALDav calendars which you can add to the stock Android Calendar app IIRC.
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@Baustin213 You guys don't publish pricing. I know i normally avoid a company that offers a pretty static product without pricing. but that's just me
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@hubtechagain said:
@Baustin213 You guys don't publish pricing. I know i normally avoid a company that offers a pretty static product without pricing. but that's just me
I believe that that is because they go through the channel only?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@hubtechagain said:
@Baustin213 You guys don't publish pricing. I know i normally avoid a company that offers a pretty static product without pricing. but that's just me
I believe that that is because they go through the channel only?
See, I do not care about that. If I am buying through channel or not, they can still list a MSRP.
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@hubtechagain said:
@Baustin213 You guys don't publish pricing. I know i normally avoid a company that offers a pretty static product without pricing. but that's just me
I believe that that is because they go through the channel only?
See, I do not care about that. If I am buying through channel or not, they can still list a MSRP.
Completely agree. If I'm price-shopping, I don't want to waste their time or mine chasing down a price (or getting stalked by sales for a product I am just roughly looking at).
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@scottalanmiller It's not channel-only. Fair critique about not listing pricing, though. Something that we'll look into, I'm sure.
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@Baustin213 said:
@scottalanmiller It's not channel-only. Fair critique about not listing pricing, though. Something that we'll look into, I'm sure.
As others here have stated in this thread and as I have stated in other threads, I will not even consider your product without some kind of simple to see pricing on your website.
Put a big * by it and note MSRP, call for quote, etc. But put a damned price out there.
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@coliver said:
Have you tried Sharepoint Online shared calendars. I'm fairly certain they can readily sync with an Android/iOS device. Maybe not as a primary calendar but then again your third party app wouldn't be primary either.
You or someone else mentioned this within the past week.
Nope I haven't tried it. I don't have a SP server, either inhouse or online yet. I'm guessing that for my inhouse solution I'd have to publish SharePoint to the internet for this to work with mobile devices?
Yeah a third party app would be just that, a third party app. But that's no big deal, other than just telling them.. hey calendar is now useless... here is your new calendar app.
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@JaredBusch here Here! You can always list MSRP. If the resellers want to sell for less, great, but at least I have a starting point.
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@Dashrender said:
@coliver said:
Have you tried Sharepoint Online shared calendars. I'm fairly certain they can readily sync with an Android/iOS device. Maybe not as a primary calendar but then again your third party app wouldn't be primary either.
You or someone else mentioned this within the past week.
Nope I haven't tried it. I don't have a SP server, either inhouse or online yet. I'm guessing that for my inhouse solution I'd have to publish SharePoint to the internet for this to work with mobile devices?
Yeah a third party app would be just that, a third party app. But that's no big deal, other than just telling them.. hey calendar is now useless... here is your new calendar app.
Right but if you are moving to O365 in the future anyway it may be worth looking at an application that is already included in it.
I think I mentioned it earlier sorry for reiterating it.
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@Baustin213 said:
@Dashrender I may have a somewhat self-serving answer here. Not sure it's exactly what you're looking for, but have you tried R1Soft?
I'm assuming you're a contact for R1 Soft? Welcome to ML
Get this man a vendor tag (assuming he is one).
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@coliver said:
Right but if you are moving to O365 in the future anyway it may be worth looking at an application that is already included in it.
I think I mentioned it earlier sorry for reiterating it.
No no, thanks for mentioning again, I want to make sure I don't forget.
But if I'm really looking to move to O365, and OWA solves my issue, Adding SP calendars is just one more thing to be broken - unless they sync WAY better than ActiveSync does on iOS? (I have calendar corruption about every 3-4 months on at least one phone because of sync issues). -
The calendars are much better than the active sync on your phone. I just use OWA on my phone now. So much easier.
