Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?
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@coliver said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
All of that, except the Great Plains integration, is pretty standard. Great Plains, I think Microsoft has taken that over and now calls it Dynamics GP?, doesn't have any thing to do this? Again this is all pretty standard.
Yeah...Dynamics GP 2015. It might have some abilities like this but we primarily use it for payroll and accounting. If it has POS abilities, we don't use it.
@scottalanmiller said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
So what part of all of that is missing from the solutions that you have looked at?
The reporting that they want.
No integration with the GP customer database.
Not enough customization to includes all fields from the current paper invoice.We were THIS close to using ZoHo Invoice but they pulled the plug because of no reporting by Delivery Date. I worked like crazy with ZoHo to configure it like we want and this one thing stopped that project.
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@garak0410 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@scottalanmiller said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
So what part of all of that is missing from the solutions that you have looked at?
The reporting that they want.
Then their response makes no sense. Let be rephrase it:
The car that is perfect for us doesn't have child seats in it, so we are going to look at building our own car from scratch.
What? Why not add car seats to the car, instead?
Reporting is a separate function (or can be) from the application. If you build your OWN application you have to build the app AND build the reporting. Two pieces of effort. If you use Ninja, you have the app and it is fully supported and you just have to report from it. It can do any reporting that you want, it's not report limited in some way. So while it doesn't do the reporting for you, neither does writing your own app. So just make some reports for Ninja and ta da... a better solution in a tiny fraction of the effort.
Their response to the lack of reports borders on the insane.
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@garak0410 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
We were THIS close to using ZoHo Invoice but they pulled the plug because of no reporting by Delivery Date. I worked like crazy with ZoHo to configure it like we want and this one thing stopped that project.
Zoho is not open so may not have the extensibility options that you want. But Ninja is open, the sky is the limit.
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@garak0410 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
No integration with the GP customer database.
Not enough customization to includes all fields from the current paper invoice.These are things you can build in yourself. The former doesn't really mean anything, integration is a loose term. We'd need more details to know how easy or hard that would be.
The latter is potentially hard and would easily break the system on new updates. What kinds of fields are missing, is there a simple work around?
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@scottalanmiller said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@garak0410 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
We were THIS close to using ZoHo Invoice but they pulled the plug because of no reporting by Delivery Date. I worked like crazy with ZoHo to configure it like we want and this one thing stopped that project.
Zoho is not open so may not have the extensibility options that you want. But Ninja is open, the sky is the limit.
Before responding to the other replies, do you think the self-hosted Invoice Ninja would be a good choice as far as more customization and extensibility? I only looked that their hosted one.
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@garak0410 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@scottalanmiller said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@garak0410 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
We were THIS close to using ZoHo Invoice but they pulled the plug because of no reporting by Delivery Date. I worked like crazy with ZoHo to configure it like we want and this one thing stopped that project.
Zoho is not open so may not have the extensibility options that you want. But Ninja is open, the sky is the limit.
Before responding to the other replies, do you think the self-hosted Invoice Ninja would be a good choice as far as more customization and extensibility? I only looked that their hosted one.
Yes, with self hosted you have full access to the database and can report from it however you like. Instead of needing to be a coding master and deal with the dangers of building an invoicing system, you need only connect to the database "Read only" safely from something like PHP or Ruby and generate reports. Building your own report portal is "trivial" and "safe". Building an invoice system is non-trivial and risky.
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And if your reporting system fails, no big deal. The company doesn't fail while you wait to get it fixed. But if you write your own invoicing system and something goes wrong or that retired guy doesn't want to maintain it, tough cheese.
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@garak0410 You may also want to look into using our Zapier integration.
https://zapier.com/zapbook/invoice-ninja/microsoft-dynamics/
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@hillel369 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@garak0410 You may also want to look into using our Zapier integration.
https://zapier.com/zapbook/invoice-ninja/microsoft-dynamics/
Boom! There you go!
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@scottalanmiller said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@hillel369 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@garak0410 You may also want to look into using our Zapier integration.
https://zapier.com/zapbook/invoice-ninja/microsoft-dynamics/
Boom! There you go!
Boom! Interesting...
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@garak0410 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@scottalanmiller said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@hillel369 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@garak0410 You may also want to look into using our Zapier integration.
https://zapier.com/zapbook/invoice-ninja/microsoft-dynamics/
Boom! There you go!
Boom! Interesting...
I wonder if @hillel369 can tell us anything about a reporting interface from which you can write your own reports?
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@scottalanmiller Although the app is quite complicated the database schema is pretty straightforward, from reading your earlier notes you may be best off writing custom reports against the database. Note: this would only be possible using the self host version of the app.
If you have any questions I'm happy to help.
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I am going to test it out. Signed up for my trail now.
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@hillel369 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@scottalanmiller Although the app is quite complicated the database schema is pretty straightforward, from reading your earlier notes you may be best off writing custom reports against the database. Note: this would only be possible using the self host version of the app.
If you have any questions I'm happy to help.
Was wondering if there was any way to access the DB, or better just an API, from the hosted version. The hosted pricing is so affordable it's hard to resist.
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@Minion-Queen said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
I am going to test it out. Signed up for my trail now.
On the trail of the trial. The spelling is the real trial.
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I'm going to look at this self-hosted Invoice Ninja. I've never dabbled with PHP >= 5.5.9 and MySQL or even have a box with PHP on it. I'm going to examine and review all of the documentation and forums on the self-hosted Invoice Ninja and go from there.
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@garak0410 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
I'm going to look at this self-hosted Invoice Ninja. I've never dabbled with PHP >= 5.5.9 and MySQL or even have a box with PHP on it. I'm going to examine and review all of the documentation and forums on the self-hosted Invoice Ninja and go from there.
PHP is surprisingly simple and reports are an excellent place to get started.
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@scottalanmiller We have a REST API and a PHP SDK, more info here...
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@hillel369 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@scottalanmiller We have a REST API and a PHP SDK, more info here...
Awesome, even better. That would be the way to go! Stick with the hosted version, build a local reporting tool via the API.
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@scottalanmiller said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@hillel369 said in Invoice Software - Office 365 Or Purchase Software Suite?:
@scottalanmiller We have a REST API and a PHP SDK, more info here...
Awesome, even better. That would be the way to go! Stick with the hosted version, build a local reporting tool via the API.
This, if it's an easy API, which most are, then developing your own reports against the it would be trivial. The missing fields may be a bit more difficult to overcome but that may be user training.
