Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect
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@scottalanmiller Agreed, I use...
node node_modules/meshcentral --dbexport bob.jsonthen setup MongoDB in the "meshcentral-data/config.json" and do
node node_modules/meshcentral --dbimport bob.jsonHowever, I need to write this up more formally. This technique will also not migrate general events and power events, so I got some improvements to make.
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@Ylian Actually... section 8.4 of the MeshCentral User's Guide does explain how to do the conversion.
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@Ylian said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scottalanmiller Agreed, I use...
node node_modules/meshcentral --dbexport bob.jsonthen setup MongoDB in the "meshcentral-data/config.json" and do
node node_modules/meshcentral --dbimport bob.jsonHowever, I need to write this up more formally. This technique will also not migrate general events and power events, so I got some improvements to make.
Cool, havent looked before as NeDB works so well.
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@scottalanmiller Now that I have more experience with NeDB, it's possible MongoDB is mostly overkill. The only need for MongoDB is for server peering in the future. I will have each MeshCentral server listen to the change events from the database and use that to synchronize state. I started work on this, but it's still a ways out.
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I scanned the docs and didn't see where I might see if I can run meshcentral 2 and meshcommander on the same device or vm. Am I missing something obvious?
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@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
I scanned the docs and didn't see where I might see if I can run meshcentral 2 and meshcommander on the same device or vm. Am I missing something obvious?
I had the impression that Central 2 was on the path to replace Commander as it is integrating those features, I believe.
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@scottalanmiller said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
I scanned the docs and didn't see where I might see if I can run meshcentral 2 and meshcommander on the same device or vm. Am I missing something obvious?
I had the impression that Central 2 was on the path to replace Commander as it is integrating those features, I believe.
That'd be cool. I did watch a couple of videos and during the session, he pointed MeshCentral2 to the MeshCommander install.
Since we have so many sites with so little at some of them, it would benefit us to be able to move more to single devices that do more than one thing.
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@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
That'd be cool. I did watch a couple of videos and during the session, he pointed MeshCentral2 to the MeshCommander install.
Oh, maybe one just leverages the other.
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@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
Since we have so many sites with so little at some of them, it would benefit us to be able to move more to single devices that do more than one thing.
How does that play in to these tools?
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@scottalanmiller said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
Since we have so many sites with so little at some of them, it would benefit us to be able to move more to single devices that do more than one thing.
How does that play in to these tools?
If we get the onboard management, ie. VPro or whatever flavor, we then have the ability to power cycle equipment at isolated sites since we are, by law forbidden to have all of the equipment on UPS's (designated explosive environment). If we can get eyes on site, even without access to the control room at the site, we can get the go ahead to power cycle, in this case, via onboard management if needed. The interface makes it really convenient -- single pane of glass and all that.
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@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scottalanmiller said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
Since we have so many sites with so little at some of them, it would benefit us to be able to move more to single devices that do more than one thing.
How does that play in to these tools?
If we get the onboard management, ie. VPro or whatever flavor, we then have the ability to power cycle equipment at isolated sites since we are, by law forbidden to have all of the equipment on UPS's (designated explosive environment). If we can get eyes on site, even without access to the control room at the site, we can get the go ahead to power cycle, in this case, via onboard management if needed. The interface makes it really convenient -- single pane of glass and all that.
That's why you want remote access. But why extra equipment per site?
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@scottalanmiller said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scottalanmiller said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
Since we have so many sites with so little at some of them, it would benefit us to be able to move more to single devices that do more than one thing.
How does that play in to these tools?
If we get the onboard management, ie. VPro or whatever flavor, we then have the ability to power cycle equipment at isolated sites since we are, by law forbidden to have all of the equipment on UPS's (designated explosive environment). If we can get eyes on site, even without access to the control room at the site, we can get the go ahead to power cycle, in this case, via onboard management if needed. The interface makes it really convenient -- single pane of glass and all that.
That's why you want remote access. But why extra equipment per site?
Not extra. These sites have a site controller PC for the POS with a management port and a camera PC also with a management port. I expect that we'll be adding more remote sites in the coming years and if it's available to move to MeshCentral/MeshCommander, then why not. Even the larger sites only have 5 or 6 cameras.
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@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
Not extra. These sites have a site controller PC for the POS with a management port and a camera PC also with a management port. I expect that we'll be adding more remote sites in the coming years and if it's available to move to MeshCentral/MeshCommander, then why not. Even the larger sites only have 5 or 6 cameras
You had mentioned moving to single devices, but if you can access remotely, why not "no" devices?
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@scottalanmiller said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
Not extra. These sites have a site controller PC for the POS with a management port and a camera PC also with a management port. I expect that we'll be adding more remote sites in the coming years and if it's available to move to MeshCentral/MeshCommander, then why not. Even the larger sites only have 5 or 6 cameras
You had mentioned moving to single devices, but if you can access remotely, why not "no" devices?
Vended POS, camera PC to reduce data across the VPN, UPS for local, non-fuel delivery equipment electrically isolated from the remainder of the site.
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@scotth Note that MeshCommander is built into MeshCentral. Once you get MeshCentral running, click on a device and if it has Intel AMT, you will see a "Intel AMT" tab. The content of that tab is MeshCommander.
If you just want a Intel AMT console and connect to AMT devices on the local network or using a VPN, use MeshCommander. If you want a more completely management solution with AMT support included use MeshCentral.
Hope it helps.
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@Ylian said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scotth Note that MeshCommander is built into MeshCentral. Once you get MeshCentral running, click on a device and if it has Intel AMT, you will see a "Intel AMT" tab. The content of that tab is MeshCommander.
If you just want a Intel AMT console and connect to AMT devices on the local network or using a VPN, use MeshCommander. If you want a more completely management solution with AMT support included use MeshCentral.
Hope it helps.
That's clear. We have over 20 sites on VPN and will follow your advise.
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@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@Ylian said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scotth Note that MeshCommander is built into MeshCentral. Once you get MeshCentral running, click on a device and if it has Intel AMT, you will see a "Intel AMT" tab. The content of that tab is MeshCommander.
If you just want a Intel AMT console and connect to AMT devices on the local network or using a VPN, use MeshCommander. If you want a more completely management solution with AMT support included use MeshCentral.
Hope it helps.
That's clear. We have over 20 sites on VPN and will follow your advise.
ThanksThat's what I was thinking, just one central machine.
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@scottalanmiller said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scotth said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@Ylian said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
@scotth Note that MeshCommander is built into MeshCentral. Once you get MeshCentral running, click on a device and if it has Intel AMT, you will see a "Intel AMT" tab. The content of that tab is MeshCommander.
If you just want a Intel AMT console and connect to AMT devices on the local network or using a VPN, use MeshCommander. If you want a more completely management solution with AMT support included use MeshCentral.
Hope it helps.
That's clear. We have over 20 sites on VPN and will follow your advise.
ThanksThat's what I was thinking, just one central machine.
It keeps getting sweeter. Unfortunately, I had to power down and backup my installation from March. I added drives to our hosts and will be able to spin it back up.
And as luck would have it, ..... Windshield Time.
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Why are you guys running this on Ubuntu now?
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@bnrstnr said in Comparing MeshCentral 2 to ScreenConnect:
Why are you guys running this on Ubuntu now?
For me, because its what I have the most history with.
