What do you use for petabyte storage?
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@JaredBusch said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?
Thanks.
Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.
If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx
There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.
That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.
I started with a cheap single drive. There was no requirement stated to have it online and rarely is there. A human to load the odd tape now and again is typically not an issue.
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@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@JaredBusch said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?
Thanks.
Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.
If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx
There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.
That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.
I started with a cheap single drive. There was no requirement stated to have it online and rarely is there. A human to load the odd tape now and again is typically not an issue.
Frankly, asking for that much storage and showing it as live NAS storage - I merely assumed he needed it online and live, otherwise why even look at that?
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I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
@JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online" -
@hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
@JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"Jared asked what, not why and missed a comma.
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@hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
@JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"It was not. I wondered why Jared mentioned that.
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Who is going to be tasked with changing the tapes if using a single drive? Is that something they are going to keep up with in house??
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@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
@JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"It was not. I wondered why Jared mentioned that.
I didn't say it - but I assume live data because the OP specifically posted about a live data solution. Though I think you mentioning tape was likely the best option.
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@Dashrender said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
@JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"It was not. I wondered why Jared mentioned that.
I didn't say it - but I assume live data because the OP specifically posted about a live data solution. Though I think you mentioning tape was likely the best option.
I think, but I'm just guessing, that that was just a solution that he looked at. Most people don't even consider archival systems for something like this.
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@biggen said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Who is going to be tasked with changing the tapes if using a single drive? Is that something they are going to keep up with in house??
Would be weird to farm that out. It's normally like a once a week task if you don't want a robot. It only takes a second. Not a hard thing to do at all, changing a tape once a week. if the company can't organize that simple task, they aren't going to be around for three years to worry about it.
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@scottalanmiller Yeah I just wonder if this is only surveillance related, do they even have an IT dept that can do it?
That autoloader that was linked above is only double the price of a single deck. Unreal how much decks cost.
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@biggen said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Yeah I just wonder if this is only surveillance related, do they even have an IT dept that can do it?
No need for one, it's not an IT task in any way, it's purely a maintenance task. Literally anyone from a janitor on up (not implying janitors aren't valuable, they are just the typical bottom of the org chart) can do it. Any secretary, receptionist, janitor, electrician, maintenance person, manager, techie, intern, etc.
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@biggen said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
That autoloader that was linked above is only double the price of a single deck. Unreal how much decks cost.
Still, I'd struggle to spend $3K more to avoid something so trivial. But on the other hand, only $3K.
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Having a zoom chat scheduled with Dell regarding to Isilon.
I know, it's meant for high criticality, high performance, always online workloads at crazy high cost. It ain't my choice. -
@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Having a zoom chat scheduled with Dell regarding to Isilon.
I can make this quick: They will recommend it.
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@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Having a zoom chat scheduled with Dell regarding to Isilon.
I can make this quick: They will recommend it.
I hope they do. And I hope they quote me in the billion so I don't have to be involve with this project.
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@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
I know, it's meant for high criticality, high performance, always online workloads at crazy high cost. It ain't my choice.
Then just buy it and don't worry. If you are the buyer, not the IT person in this situation, and the IT decision maker has already decided, just buy it. Whether or not it is good for the use case or the business doesn't matter one iota.
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It's not like it isn't a fun gadget to play with. Enjoy that it isn't your money, and no responsibility of yours.
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An Isilon for surveillance cold storage?! I need to work for a company like this that wastes cash like its toilet paper.
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@biggen said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
An Isilon for surveillance cold storage?! I need to work for a company like this that wastes cash like its toilet paper.
Right? lol
In reality, it's a depressing situation because there's no way to do a "good job" in IT because "money doesn't matter", so our jobs have no context. As much as it sounds like it would be fun, it's not.
