Root Android Device
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I'm having problems finding a good site with an example of what to do.
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Are you trying to install Ubuntu regular for ARM, or Ubuntu Phone?
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Are you sure that you found a site with this information and that it is correct? I'm sorry to keep asking, but there appears to be confusion and clearing it up would help speed this along greatly.
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Most Android phones are carrier locked (at least in the US) so you can't just install Ubuntu unless you root the phone so you can unlock the phone, which then allows you to flash a new OS on the device.
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I think he found one of the apps that will install Ubuntu along with Android. I don't understand the purpose, but they want root access for it to run. Just a guess.
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@johnhooks said:
I think he found one of the apps that will install Ubuntu along with Android. I don't understand the purpose, but they want root access for it to run. Just a guess.
That would make sense. But he stated that he wanted to delete Android, not keep it.
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@Dashrender said:
Most Android phones are carrier locked (at least in the US) so you can't just install Ubuntu unless you root the phone so you can unlock the phone, which then allows you to flash a new OS on the device.
That should have been stated when asked, then.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Most Android phones are carrier locked (at least in the US) so you can't just install Ubuntu unless you root the phone so you can unlock the phone, which then allows you to flash a new OS on the device.
That should have been stated when asked, then.
I find that statement almost laughable. I consider that knowledge kinda a given for anyone who is working on rooting/replacing as OS on an Android device.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Most Android phones are carrier locked (at least in the US) so you can't just install Ubuntu unless you root the phone so you can unlock the phone, which then allows you to flash a new OS on the device.
That should have been stated when asked, then.
I find that statement almost laughable. I consider that knowledge kinda a given for anyone who is working on rooting/replacing as OS on an Android device.
Which aspect?
Remember that replacing the OS and rooting are unrelated. If you have to unlock a locked device via a rooting process, that's different. At a high level, this is unrelated. Many Android devices do not require this, but many people confuse rooting and installing and that means that clarity around intention is critical.
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Really? Many Android devices don't require rooting to replace the OS? I guess my limited exposure to US devices has biased me.
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@Dashrender said:
Really? Many Android devices don't require rooting to replace the OS? I guess my limited exposure to US devices has biased me.
Many do, of course, but many do not. Most of the world does not use locked devices. In many places they are not even legal. Remember that most of the world does not have phones from their carriers, so carrier locking is pretty rare. Therefore there really isn't any drive to lock the OS either.
Don't know how often it happens, but quite often it does not.
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I need to root my device first after that only i can install the OS in my device.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Many do, of course, but many do not. Most of the world does not use locked devices.
You are talking about two distinct things.
Rooting a phone is required to replace the OS.
Carrier locking of phones has little tondo with rooting other than people rooting phones to get around carrier locks.
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Many do, of course, but many do not. Most of the world does not use locked devices.
You are talking about two distinct things.
Rooting a phone is required to replace the OS.
Carrier locking of phones has little tondo with rooting other than people rooting phones to get around carrier locks.
Yeah I thought I was over complicating it.
thanks
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Many do, of course, but many do not. Most of the world does not use locked devices.
You are talking about two distinct things.
Rooting a phone is required to replace the OS.
Carrier locking of phones has little tondo with rooting other than people rooting phones to get around carrier locks.
There aren't any phones that allow you to flash them externally without needing to have root access to the existing OS first? I thought that a lot of phone makers were offering that feature. Not something I look for, I could be totally wrong.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Many do, of course, but many do not. Most of the world does not use locked devices.
You are talking about two distinct things.
Rooting a phone is required to replace the OS.
Carrier locking of phones has little tondo with rooting other than people rooting phones to get around carrier locks.
There aren't any phones that allow you to flash them externally without needing to have root access to the existing OS first? I thought that a lot of phone makers were offering that feature. Not something I look for, I could be totally wrong.
I don't think so. In order to flash, you have to have root. Having root on the phone allows malware to do even worse things if it's unchecked.
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@Dashrender said:
I don't think so. In order to flash, you have to have root. Having root on the phone allows malware to do even worse things if it's unchecked.
Of course, but similar devices (not phones just all sorts of devices) you normally can flash externally. What happens if the phone gets damaged and the OS does not work (e.g. there is no root), what do you do? On my iPhone I can flash it without being rooted (and I have and my dad did this week too.)
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@Dashrender said:
I don't think so. In order to flash, you have to have root. Having root on the phone allows malware to do even worse things if it's unchecked.
You don't 'have root' on the phone. All phone have the ability to be booted with root access. Using root to remove or change that bad does not imply giving root access to applications once rebooted normally.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I don't think so. In order to flash, you have to have root. Having root on the phone allows malware to do even worse things if it's unchecked.
Of course, but similar devices (not phones just all sorts of devices) you normally can flash externally. What happens if the phone gets damaged and the OS does not work (e.g. there is no root), what do you do? On my iPhone I can flash it without being rooted (and I have and my dad did this week too.)
Rooting a phone is specifically an android term. The matching term for iOS is jail breaking
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@JaredBusch said:
Rooting a phone is specifically an android term. The matching term for iOS is jail breaking
Yes, I know that they call it jailbreaking. Rooting is not an Android term, though, it's been an industry standard term for getting root level access when you were not supposed to have it (or a device tried to keep you from it) for a very long time, definitely back to my college years in the early 1990s. It simply means getting root level access (even for systems where that is not called root.)
