Kiting someone along after an interview
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Maybe, they told another they had a 'solid' for this position in order to make a move on the target. Car sales, you look at something, always there is another buyer interested in this vehicle (maybe, maybe not) but knowing you are competing with another for the vehicle can entice you to buy. Job's work in this way also, I have been told I was 1 of 3 people selected to interview. Wow, Odds are stacked in my favor-- No one I know in this town can compete, I am a shoe in. OOPS my bad, letter ("picked someone more qualified"), what???? Give me his name, I need to have his phone number so when I am stymied, I can add him to my support group and ask him questions. (Actually) I answer Way more questions than I ask. Still, More qualified, give me a break. Yea, I hear you and it does not make any sense, maybe they don't mind training someone - and paying quite a bit less? I also am at a loss, but Once many moons ago in another life I worked in a parts department of a large dealership. I saw firsthand the dirty tricks salesmen (not all) used to urge customers to buy.... Kind reminds me of the hiring process for IT. Quick take it for less, there is anther serious candidate we are looking at. Bang, shot thru the heart.
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it just comes off as such an insult though. I don't know how else to say it,
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It is insulting. At least you have the full idea of what working there could have been like....
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@Minion-Queen said:
It is insulting. At least you have the full idea of what working there could have been like....
Agreed - the upside is you dodged the bullet of having to be part of such a dysfunctional organization.
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I have had this happen to me multiple times, my downfall was after my first company was bought out I didn't search if I had a "dream job" on the line and more often then not I got strung out. It sucks, I am sorry.
In other news I did get a job with another company that strung me a long for over a month and what Nic said rings pretty true, it's just a glimpse into how they operate. Although it's getting better after 7 months.
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Once, A person said "at my job they are lazy, cruel, impatient. What should I do?". 1 Learn to be lazy, cruel, impatient - essentially 'learn' to fit in, or 2 find a job with people who have the quality's you would expect at a place of employment and learn from them. Never heard what happened, but hoped it was 2. Consider this learning experiment, people like to be important and throw their weight around. Give you hope, but are not really the end decision maker (obviously) and blindly go around affecting people in ways they cant imagine. Now, if you worked for this person and they continued in this way, how else do you think they could have made your life miserable. Consider how you felt, emotional rollercoaster, imagine how they felt - sure sounds like they were oblivious to this fact. With the little you have said they made you feel important 'key word they' and then took it away from you. If you were employed by them you may have to endure this rollercoaster while on their payroll. I wish I could say something that would make you feel better, but as you know I cant, but I could offer you a job and remove the offer. How would you feel then, and do you think I should have that kind of control over your feeling's. I don't. Please don't take this as being callous but remember, when it comes to other people's promises - all you have is hot air.
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I tend to see this with larger companies, and it's pretty common. To put it in a nutshell, it's all talk until the offer letter's in your hand.
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Hello RAM it happen to me many times. During the interview they would say you are qualified and wait for us to call you after a week. Yes it really hurt to hope and yes, of course after the interview you are building your hope to start working with them,planning for something etc. You waited for 8 weeks,mine i been waiting for almost 8 months lols. And i never heard from them. But i am looking forward for this coming opportunity.
Just keep going and be happy cause your still have job right now. Just always hope for the best.keep positive (PS. I am excited for my next journey)
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@alexntg said:
I tend to see this with larger companies, and it's pretty common. To put it in a nutshell, it's all talk until the offer letter's in your hand.
I tend to see it with smaller ones (not Fortune 1000) where they have no public image or PR concerns and burning bridges isn't something that they worry about.
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@Joyfano said:
Hello RAM it happen to me many times. During the interview they would say you are qualified and wait for us to call you after a week. Yes it really hurt to hope and yes, of course after the interview you are building your hope to start working with them,planning for something etc. You waited for 8 weeks,mine i been waiting for almost 8 months lols. And i never heard from them. But i am looking forward for this coming opportunity.
Just keep going and be happy cause your still have job right now. Just always hope for the best.keep positive (PS. I am excited for my next journey)
His wasn't just that he was qualified but they basically offered him the job and were just waiting on telling him when he would be starting. It's been a conversation and active thing all along and they've had him kind of working for free in the interim, sort of.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Joyfano said:
Hello RAM it happen to me many times. During the interview they would say you are qualified and wait for us to call you after a week. Yes it really hurt to hope and yes, of course after the interview you are building your hope to start working with them,planning for something etc. You waited for 8 weeks,mine i been waiting for almost 8 months lols. And i never heard from them. But i am looking forward for this coming opportunity.
Just keep going and be happy cause your still have job right now. Just always hope for the best.keep positive (PS. I am excited for my next journey)
His wasn't just that he was qualified but they basically offered him the job and were just waiting on telling him when he would be starting. It's been a conversation and active thing all along and they've had him kind of working for free in the interim, sort of.
Oh sorry Sir , I think i need to learn to read thoroughly next time
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RAM I know the feeling I have been strung along like that before. It was my first venture into IT and it was an entry level HD job. I sent me resume, interviewed and for the next 3 months they strung me along. They kept telling me I was their # 1 candidate. Then after the 3rd month I called and told them to stop string me along and they said "oh we forgot to tell you we filled that position 2 months ago" I was so furious that I sent a nicely worded (somehow very professional) that the way they treated me was highly un-professional and that when I did get into the IT job line I would spread the word that this company is not one you want to work for.
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The guy who got the job instead just posted about getting it. So now we know the rest of the story. And it explains why he had been so cold about the idea of posting on MangoLassi!
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@scottalanmiller said:
The guy who got the job instead just posted about getting it. So now we know the rest of the story. And it explains why he had been so cold about the idea of posting on MangoLassi!
You mean you already invited him here in MangoLassi?
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@Joyfano said:
@scottalanmiller said:
The guy who got the job instead just posted about getting it. So now we know the rest of the story. And it explains why he had been so cold about the idea of posting on MangoLassi!
You mean you already invited him here in MangoLassi?
Yes, the day he announced that he couldn't post (over there) anymore. I invited him to post here. He was very cold. Now we see why.
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I held myself back from posting over here due to the fact I was in the midst of talking about other employment, I didn't want to condemn myself by saying anything I shouldn't have over here.
Seeing as my attempts went disrespectfully discouraged over there, my voice will echo their pages less and less.
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And now you are free to post here!
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RAM,
I left a stable government IT job and started to work for an MSP that really worked themselves up to be something they werent. I moved and everything to start the job. The first week I was thee they had me recycle computer components and UPS batteries and the Second week I sat on a PC waiting for a client to call. Sometime in the 3rd week they laid me off. I was insulted, and I was extremely pissed off. They knew they pulled me away from a stable job and laid me off in 3 weeks. I then started doing contract work. Alot of my friends did this, but It was never something I had done. I really hated it. No employer was the same. IT department skill levels varied.
About a year later, I was getting desperate to get an employee job for a company. I paid to have my resume professionally done. I started applying at jobs with my new Resume and got offered interviews like crazy. In a week, I did 4 interviews and 3 of the employers gave me a job offer. I was able to pick my place of employment and now I couldnt be more happy.
Everyone who is working for a great employer, put their time in with the shitty ones. I see it on Spicworks all the time, IT professionals posting about their backwards IT dept. and employers. That was me. No appreciation by co-workers and superiors. Set your sights high, and dont stop until you get what you want. There are good employers out there and you are a good employee. One day soon, you will find the right fit.
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@RAM. said:
il today from the VP... "we found someone more qualified", "we thought you were what we wanted"... [moderated] bullshit.... 8 god damn weeks, 2 [moderated] months of my life I was forced to SIT AND WAIT for a new job that I was told was mine.... the fact it took that long to [screw] me over is shocking, its far from professional, and its outright disgusting and leaves me pissed.... beyond pissed out right annoyed to no end. My [moderated] future was banking on it, my [moderated] future was told to me, what I was told, and what I get are very [moderated] different.
Happens to the best of us.
I'm going to start telling people "Only serious inquiries need ask me if I want a job."
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Joyfano said:
@scottalanmiller said:
The guy who got the job instead just posted about getting it. So now we know the rest of the story. And it explains why he had been so cold about the idea of posting on MangoLassi!
You mean you already invited him here in MangoLassi?
Yes, the day he announced that he couldn't post (over there) anymore. I invited him to post here. He was very cold. Now we see why.
Good morning everyone.. I see.. at least now we know the real reason.
@RAM. you are Free to post here
