FreePBX on VPS
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@fuznutz04 said:
I've been reading up on Linode, Backspace, Vultr, and DO. Ideally, the ability to upload my own ISO (the FreePBX distro ISO) would be the easiest, but I am open to other options as well.
Almost no one allows ISO uploads, that's pretty rare and it pretty much rules out some of the best providers because they use Xen which is makes ISO uploads often impossible.
We use Rackspace and Digital Ocean for PBX handling and both have been good. We've been on RS for a very long time for that. But it is expensive these days.
Linode is likely awesome and this site is on Linode now (moved from RS.) Linode has the best performance of the bunch. Vultr is likely very good, and we like them, just have not had production PBXs there.
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@fuznutz04 said:
@aaronstuder I'm glad you mentioned Vultr. I was looking at them recently was was thinking "These guys have to be too good to be true."
We've used them for years (introduced to us by @aaronstuder ). We tend to use them primarily for large storage capacity systems like ownCloud, but they have been solid for a long time.
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@aaronstuder said:
@fuznutz04 said:
I've been reading up on Linode, Rackspace, Vultr, and DO.
Out of those, Vultr is the only one that supports custom ISO's (I think)
That's what I have found.
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@Minion-Queen said:
We have been very happy with Vultr. But we also use DO and are happy with them as well. But we have Linode, Rackspace and various others (HATE Azure) but other than that.
Uh yeah, don't use Azure.
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@fuznutz04 said:
@Minion-Queen said:
We have been very happy with Vultr. But we also use DO and are happy with them as well. But we have Linode, Rackspace and various others (HATE Azure) but other than that.
I've had a similar experience with Azure. I like Microsoft's 365 offerings in regards to email, etc, but their Azure stuff for servers is not where it needs to be. The interface in confusing at first glance, and they seem to have more issues than I want to deal with.
Yup, very hard to use, very poor performance and rather unreliable. Not a good combination.
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@jt1001001 said:
I've been toying with the idea of a PBX on cloud myself using Digital Ocean. NerdVittles has a write up on FreePBX on that platform. http://nerdvittles.com/?p=17205
And we have two Elastix build documents here as well (will work with any of these providers) that assumes no ISO access.
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@Dashrender said:
@Minion-Queen said:
We have been very happy with Vultr. But we also use DO and are happy with them as well. But we have Linode, Rackspace and various others (HATE Azure) but other than that.
that's Scott's fault - anything he touches that is Microsoft based turns to ****, I think he has an anti MS gene
Actually most of the systems on MS that aren't reliable I don't touch. O365 I only touch as an end user and Azure was all built and set up and maintained by MS themselves! It's the ones that I admin that seem to keep working
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@jt1001001 said:
I've been toying with the idea of a PBX on cloud myself using Digital Ocean. NerdVittles has a write up on FreePBX on that platform. http://nerdvittles.com/?p=17205
Would you trust people who think that CloudatCost is good are people to trust? That article promotes CloudatCost, which clearly can't even run a PBX let alone be useful.
That article is about installing IncrediblePBX, not FreePBX. IncrediblePBX uses the FreePBX interface, but isn't related to FreePBX the PBX which is what @fuznutz04 is looking for.
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@Dashrender said:
@jt1001001 said:
I've been toying with the idea of a PBX on cloud myself using Digital Ocean. NerdVittles has a write up on FreePBX on that platform. http://nerdvittles.com/?p=17205
i thought DO had their own documentation for that too?
Nope, only me. Even NerdVittles doesn't have it, that's something else.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@fuznutz04 said:
I've been reading up on Linode, Backspace, Vultr, and DO. Ideally, the ability to upload my own ISO (the FreePBX distro ISO) would be the easiest, but I am open to other options as well.
Almost no one allows ISO uploads, that's pretty rare and it pretty much rules out some of the best providers because they use Xen which is makes ISO uploads often impossible.
We use Rackspace and Digital Ocean for PBX handling and both have been good. We've been on RS for a very long time for that. But it is expensive these days.
The custom ISO upload feature in combination with snapshots, is a killer offering from Vultr. I can download an ISO directly from a website, install the server, make all of the customization that I want, snapshot it, and redeploy when necessary. From what I've found so far, they are win/win.
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@scottalanmiller 100% correct kind sir, I withdraw my previous comments. I unfortunately have fallen for the ponzi scheme that is cloudatcost (luckily out only a few bucks) so I will be looking at other providers for my test bed
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@jt1001001 Check out @vultr, you will be quite pleased I think
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@jt1001001 said:
@scottalanmiller 100% correct kind sir, I withdraw my previous comments. I unfortunately have fallen for the ponzi scheme that is cloudatcost (luckily out only a few bucks) so I will be looking at other providers for my test bed
Most of us fell victim to that, I'm afraid.
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@fuznutz04 Vultr still working well for you?
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@aaronstuder said:
@fuznutz04 Vultr still working well for you?
Yes, so far so good. I still didn't assign any numbers to the PBX yet for testing, but that's on the plan for this week. Then I can check voice quality.
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@fuznutz04 said:
@aaronstuder said:
@fuznutz04 Vultr still working well for you?
Yes, so far so good. I still didn't assign any numbers to the PBX yet for testing, but that's on the plan for this week. Then I can check voice quality.
You can do that with just extensions. No need to hook to the PSTN to test that. Actually that's a bad test as you are testing many unknowns then, extension to extension is the best test of the PBX itself.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@fuznutz04 said:
@aaronstuder said:
@fuznutz04 Vultr still working well for you?
Yes, so far so good. I still didn't assign any numbers to the PBX yet for testing, but that's on the plan for this week. Then I can check voice quality.
You can do that with just extensions. No need to hook to the PSTN to test that. Actually that's a bad test as you are testing many unknowns then, extension to extension is the best test of the PBX itself.
Valid point Scott. Speaking of hooking up to PSTN, I've been using Vitelity and have had a good experience so far. Their support seems to be good and they are very helpful in assisting to diagnose problems. In previous roles, I've used NexVortex. Would anyone like to share their experience with either of those 2 SIP providers?
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We have worked with both on behalf of clients. Honestly you will have issues with your provider at some point big guns included. So make sure your support channel is good.
Vitelity: Their support documentation isn't the greatest. However their Support themselves is very responsive and knowlegeable. We have been able to solve most problems very quickly.
NexVortex: Constant Outages on the East Coast. 2-3 hours before you can get someone to answer the phone for support call, 4 days was the average for emails. Once you finally did get support you got someone reading a script that couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.
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voip.ms is good and we've had good luck with VoicePulse.
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@Minion-Queen said:
We have worked with both on behalf of clients. Honestly you will have issues with your provider at some point big guns included. So make sure your support channel is good.
Vitelity: Their support documentation isn't the greatest. However their Support themselves is very responsive and knowlegeable. We have been able to solve most problems very quickly.
NexVortex: Constant Outages on the East Coast. 2-3 hours before you can get someone to answer the phone for support call, 4 days was the average for emails. Once you finally did get support you got someone reading a script that couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.
I'd agree with your Vitelity comment. Their material is a bit lacking, but their support team is responsible and seems knowledgable.
The only problem I've had with NexVortex was choppy calls, but that always seemed to coincide with some sort of DOS attack at our COLO, which was evident on our firewall logs. I've never had to contact them for support, so I can't comment on that.