Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10
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@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
@DustinB3403 said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
Now if that business initiative is from the IT department, shame on you. If it's from upper management saying "No, don't do an upgrade yet" then shame on them.
I'm not going there. I will say though that I did a tour of the Red Bull Formula 1 factory a few months ago. They're obviously on the bleeding edge of modern engineering, but I noted that even they had a few workstations still running XP.You know, I'm not surprised. This happens all over the place. The computer "works good enough" and it's not something that the mechanics care about so they don't worry about getting the latest and greatest.. but hot damn.. if Snap On comes out with a new wrench, you can better well believe they will be getting that new tool because it's what they know, it's what they like and personally care about.
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@Dashrender said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
I haven't. That would be awesome.
Here's my personal suggestion.
Get an SSD, grab one of those machines - remove the old drive, plug in the SSD, install Windows 10. try to activate it. If it works, Great!
Now format that SSD, remove it, put the old drive back in and wait for whatever software updates you need.
Now take that SSD to the second machine and repeat above process, rinse and repeat across all machines. Now that you have rights to use Windows 10 on all machines, get a VL for ONE Windows 10 Pro license and use the VL media to make an image that you use to deploy windows 10 on those machines.
This worked. Yay. How come this isn't more widely known?
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@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
@Dashrender said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
I haven't. That would be awesome.
Here's my personal suggestion.
Get an SSD, grab one of those machines - remove the old drive, plug in the SSD, install Windows 10. try to activate it. If it works, Great!
Now format that SSD, remove it, put the old drive back in and wait for whatever software updates you need.
Now take that SSD to the second machine and repeat above process, rinse and repeat across all machines. Now that you have rights to use Windows 10 on all machines, get a VL for ONE Windows 10 Pro license and use the VL media to make an image that you use to deploy windows 10 on those machines.
This worked. Yay. How come this isn't more widely known?
I'm not sure what you mean? Microsoft I don't think would ever say this publicly because it doesn't serve their actual goal - which is moving everyone to Windows 10 now.
As for the actual process - why isn't it more widely known? I'm not sure I'd say that it isn't.
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I don't read a lot of press admittedly, but this is the only place where I've read that you can still upgrade to Windows 10 for free. I've read a few places talking about a workaround by claiming to need assistive technologies, but nowhere that says you don't need any workaround, you can just upgrade as normal. For free.
Even on this thread, loads of people posted, but you're the only one who posted that you could still upgrade for free.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
I don't read a lot of press admittedly, but this is the only place where I've read that you can still upgrade to Windows 10 for free. I've read a few places talking about a workaround by claiming to need assistive technologies, but nowhere that says you don't need any workaround, you can just upgrade as normal. For free.
Even on this thread, loads of people posted, but you're the only one who posted that you could still upgrade for free.
That's because it's not suppose to be a general thing. Paul Thurrott has written this in a few of his articles, but really it's only because MS hasn't turned this off on their servers yet that it still works. I say - Consider yourself lucky. With almost any other company, they would have shut down the free offer the moment they said they were going to. For whatever reason, MS hasn't.
FYI, this could stop working today, tomorrow, who knows when. You shouldn't rely on it.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
I don't read a lot of press admittedly, but this is the only place where I've read that you can still upgrade to Windows 10 for free. I've read a few places talking about a workaround by claiming to need assistive technologies, but nowhere that says you don't need any workaround, you can just upgrade as normal. For free.
Even on this thread, loads of people posted, but you're the only one who posted that you could still upgrade for free.
I think that you should just try and see what happens. It's very possible that it still works.
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@Dashrender said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
FYI, this could stop working today, tomorrow, who knows when. You shouldn't rely on it.
This ^^^
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@scottalanmiller said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
I'm sure that MS has a path to make this as easy and painless as possible, though.
I'm sensing some sarcasm here. If there is no sarcasm, you're so optimistic!
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@scottalanmiller said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
I think that you should just try and see what happens. It's very possible that it still works.
Yeah, I already wrote that it worked this morning.
I'm not relying on it, but I'm always going to try and use it before paying for it. I don't care whether it is free or not, but I'd take free over paid if given a choice.
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I paid for a license to Pro after upgrading from 8.1 home to 10 home @ home. The upgrade worked okay at best at the time. Though, that was the week they released 10. I can imagine you'll probably have some driver issues and opt for a clean install in the end. If you're OCD like me that is.
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I'm joining this party a little late...
We elected to hold out and remain on Windows 7 because of the people in our environment. We are going through a lot of changes as an organization. We implemented a new case management system (basically the lifeblood of the organization), are working on bringing up a new building that a majority of our organization will be moving to soon. Also there have been a lot of department re-orgs. So, we decided as a department that introducing our users to Windows 10 in the middle of everything that is going on would cause a revolt. We will do it after we're settled into the new building, even though it becomes a cost.
It wouldn't be much of an issue if we weren't an organization of roughly ~400 people...
Of course, us techs each have a Win10 box.
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we are running VMs for all the old XP applications that a handful of users need to run. It works pretty good for us
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@Brains We have one application that just won't die that we do this for. We finally put money in this year's budget (FY starts July 1 for us) to have the software re-written. I will be so happy when it's replaced!
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As a last thought on this.
Lets look at this from a cost perspective. If you have 10 computers, all running windows 7, and you now need to purchase upgrade licenses for those machines, it'll cost $199 per (or $1990).
What would it cost to upgrade to the newest version of your application? Would it cost more or less? My guess would be more (than updating ever user environment), all while providing you the most current up to date software and operating system platform at minimal cost (the cost of the application upgrade fee)
Edit: now lets add the cost of having to upgrade both your end user devices and the software to be compliant (or supportable from a vendors point of view).
This "We missed the window" is really "We just wanted to waste money"
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@anthonyh said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
@Brains We have one application that just won't die that we do this for. We finally put money in this year's budget (FY starts July 1 for us) to have the software re-written. I will be so happy when it's replaced!
The pain of old software is real bruh. Lucky for me we are already phasing out the 20yr old IBM AIX 4.3 server and software (i have the source code and am NOT going to try to deal with that ludicrous display of "programming"). Our new PMS/EHR is running on a nice new server and everything is Win10 compatible.
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@DustinB3403 We have an application that's going to cost us $80k to re-write.
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@DustinB3403 said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
As a last thought on this.
Lets look at this from a cost perspective. If you have 10 computers, all running windows 7, and you now need to purchase upgrade licenses for those machines, it'll cost $199 per (or $1990).
What would it cost to upgrade to the newest version of your application? Would it cost more or less? My guess would be more (than updating ever user environment), all while providing you the most current up to date software and operating system platform at minimal cost (the cost of the application upgrade fee)
also delaying the next OS upgrade by 3 years at least, if not 5
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@anthonyh said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
@DustinB3403 We have an application that's going to cost us $80k to re-write.
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@Brains Is the delay a big deal? Windows 7 EOL is 1/14/2020 (Windows 8 is 1/10/2023). So in theory you have 3-4 years if currently runnin Win7 until one must upgrade. I'm not sure time is an issue.
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@anthonyh said in Paying to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10:
@Brains Is the delay a big deal? Windows 7 EOL is 1/14/2020. So in theory you have 3-4 years until one must upgrade. I'm not sure time is an issue.
Businesses love to wait 4 years before they have to spend money instead of spending it now (or at all if the free upgrade was chosen)
