Zoom meeting access:
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@JaredBusch said in Zoom meeting access::
Bu that is not what Zoom is typically used for.
Zoom is typically misused. It's complex and meant for situations that are what very few people are trying to do today. Jitsi is far closer to Zoom than you might think. And it's hardly new or shiny, at this point it's a stodgy old tool
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@JaredBusch said in Zoom meeting access::
It is not a Zoom/Teams/WebEx replacement by any stretch of the imagination.
Isn't that a good thing? Zoom is good, but really similar. Teams and WebEx are trainwrecks.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
@JaredBusch said in Zoom meeting access::
It is not a Zoom/Teams/WebEx replacement by any stretch of the imagination.
Isn't that a good thing? Zoom is good, but really similar. Teams and WebEx are trainwrecks.
Really similar to what? You are obviously not using any of the advanced features of any of those solutions if you think Jitsi is a competitor.
Just because you do not use the features does not mean that they are useless. They are heavily used by many people.
And yeah, Teams and WebEx are fucking train wrecks. But they still have all of the advanced features that Jitsi lacks.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
Zoom is typically misused.
Sure, all the home users and half the idiots that should not be employed are misusing it. For them Jitsi or FaceTime or Meet (Hangouts) would be a perfectly functional solution.
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@JaredBusch said in Zoom meeting access::
Just because you do not use the features does not mean that they are useless. They are heavily used by many people.
Many, but not many looking to use it now. The sudden rush to let people communicate is about basics, not features. And quite frankly, Jitsi handles quality and ease of use better. Those are pretty advanced features. So while you can say many people need the advanced features of Zoom (like PSTN gateways), the bigger majority likely need the even more advanced features of Jitsi's WebRTC implementation that is more efficient and easier to use.
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SANS Institute has presentation slides and a webcast how to best use zoom from a cybersecurity perspective.
You have to register to access the webcast though.
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We provide a good amount of Zoom training already. But if we were to move away from Zoom I would expect it be a toss up between Teams and WebEx.
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I just tried a Zoom meeting again and it absolutely does not open in a web browser. It is very clear that you have to download and install components. It gives me no other option as the person joining a meeting.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
I just tried a Zoom meeting again and it absolutely does not open in a web browser. It is very clear that you have to download and install components. It gives me no other option as the person joining a meeting.
It's pretty easy for me...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrkFBafwlwhgqJgyBkBe91uqKuxEc3W9/view
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@Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::
@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
I just tried a Zoom meeting again and it absolutely does not open in a web browser. It is very clear that you have to download and install components. It gives me no other option as the person joining a meeting.
It's pretty easy for me...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrkFBafwlwhgqJgyBkBe91uqKuxEc3W9/view
I'm guessing that you have stuff already installed so it doesn't prompt again?
Chrome...
I've tested this several times since Jared told me it was false that it didn't need something installed. But I keep testing, and every time, it gives no option but to install.
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Here is Firefox....
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
I've tested this several times since Jared told me it was false that it didn't need something installed. But I keep testing, and every time, it gives no option but to install.
That was for Windows. Linux is app required. It is not a secret.
Linux desktop is not something anyone builds for. Do I wish that it was otherwise? sure.
But facts are facts. You are using a minority OS.
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@JaredBusch said in Zoom meeting access::
@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
I've tested this several times since Jared told me it was false that it didn't need something installed. But I keep testing, and every time, it gives no option but to install.
That was for Windows. Linux is app required. It is not a secret.
Linux desktop is not something anyone builds for. Do I wish that it was otherwise? sure.
But facts are facts. You are using a minority OS.
Windows 10. No browser option.
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@JaredBusch said in Zoom meeting access::
But facts are facts. You are using a minority OS.
Windows + Linux. Nice try with blaming the OS. Bottom line, you guys look like you are installing an app then forgetting and thinking that you are able to run in your browser.
First it was "it runs in the browser." Then it was "it only runs on Windows in the browser." You keep moving the goal posts. It doesn't run in the browser, full stop.
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@JaredBusch said in Zoom meeting access::
Linux desktop is not something anyone builds for. Do I wish that it was otherwise? sure.
Jitsi does.
But, by this logic, Zoom doesn't build for anyone.
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here it is needing an install for Edge.
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And looks like it is asking for admin here. Maybe it isn't, but appears to be.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
And looks like it is asking for admin here. Maybe it isn't, but appears to be.
definitely appears that way, but Admin rights aren't required, I've installed without admin on several machines.
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@Dashrender said in Zoom meeting access::
@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
And looks like it is asking for admin here. Maybe it isn't, but appears to be.
definitely appears that way, but Admin rights aren't required, I've installed without admin on several machines.
So UAC but without admin, that's not too bad. Still don't want users installing things willy nilly for meetings. This has long been a shortcoming for these kinds of apps.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
@Dashrender said in Zoom meeting access::
@scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::
And looks like it is asking for admin here. Maybe it isn't, but appears to be.
definitely appears that way, but Admin rights aren't required, I've installed without admin on several machines.
So UAC but without admin, that's not too bad. Still don't want users installing things willy nilly for meetings. This has long been a shortcoming for these kinds of apps.
I agree - installing something means needing to update that something. The question then becomes, can those platforms get the features without an install?
