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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @DustinB3403
      last edited by

      @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

      @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

      @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

      Can a road be used for good? Yes
      Can a road be used for crime? Yes

      Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
      Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

      Change out road with car. Same result.

      It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

      Let's take your example 1 step further.

      Can a gun be used for good? Yes
      Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

      Can a gun kill a person? No
      Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

      If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

      They have auto aim guns now, that shoot at the right time once you pull the trigger..
      https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/17000-linux-powered-rifle-brings-auto-aim-to-the-real-world/

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
        last edited by JaredBusch

        @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

        @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

        @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

        @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

        @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

        Can a road be used for good? Yes
        Can a road be used for crime? Yes

        Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
        Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

        Change out road with car. Same result.

        It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

        Let's take your example 1 step further.

        Can a gun be used for good? Yes
        Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

        Can a gun kill a person? No
        Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

        If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

        yet guns aren't illegal.

        But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

        Not relevant. You are conflating shit worse than @Dashrender usually does.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

          @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

          @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

          @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

          @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

          Can a road be used for good? Yes
          Can a road be used for crime? Yes

          Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
          Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

          Change out road with car. Same result.

          It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

          Let's take your example 1 step further.

          Can a gun be used for good? Yes
          Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

          Can a gun kill a person? No
          Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

          If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

          yet guns aren't illegal.

          But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

          NOT the same thing at all.

          Nothing inside the DragonBox is illegal. Not one thing (that we know of).

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @jaredbusch said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

            @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

            @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

            @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

            @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

            @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

            Can a road be used for good? Yes
            Can a road be used for crime? Yes

            Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
            Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

            Change out road with car. Same result.

            It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

            Let's take your example 1 step further.

            Can a gun be used for good? Yes
            Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

            Can a gun kill a person? No
            Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

            If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

            yet guns aren't illegal.

            But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

            Not relevant. You are conflating shit worse that @Dashrender usually does.

            awww.. JB likes me again. 😛

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

              @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

              @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

              @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

              @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

              @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

              Can a road be used for good? Yes
              Can a road be used for crime? Yes

              Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
              Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

              Change out road with car. Same result.

              It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

              Let's take your example 1 step further.

              Can a gun be used for good? Yes
              Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

              Can a gun kill a person? No
              Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

              If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

              yet guns aren't illegal.

              But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

              NOT the same thing at all.

              Nothing inside the DragonBox is illegal. Not one thing (that we know of).

              That box might be full of heroin, you don't know! 😉

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @RojoLoco
                last edited by

                @rojoloco said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                Can a road be used for good? Yes
                Can a road be used for crime? Yes

                Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
                Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

                Change out road with car. Same result.

                It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

                Let's take your example 1 step further.

                Can a gun be used for good? Yes
                Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

                Can a gun kill a person? No
                Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

                If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

                yet guns aren't illegal.

                But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

                NOT the same thing at all.

                Nothing inside the DragonBox is illegal. Not one thing (that we know of).

                That box might be full of heroin, you don't know! 😉

                LOL - that would be one hell of a deal if it's full of herion.. lol

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @jaredbusch said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                  @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                  @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                  @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                  @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                  @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                  Can a road be used for good? Yes
                  Can a road be used for crime? Yes

                  Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
                  Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

                  Change out road with car. Same result.

                  It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

                  Let's take your example 1 step further.

                  Can a gun be used for good? Yes
                  Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

                  Can a gun kill a person? No
                  Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

                  If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

                  yet guns aren't illegal.

                  But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

                  Not relevant. You are conflating shit worse than @Dashrender usually does.

                  Okay, here.

                  Stealing guns and selling them is illegal. Providing a channel on which to sell illegal weapons (stolen weapons) is also illegal.

                  ffs

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                    @rojoloco said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                    @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                    @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                    @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                    @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                    @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                    @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                    Can a road be used for good? Yes
                    Can a road be used for crime? Yes

                    Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
                    Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

                    Change out road with car. Same result.

                    It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

                    Let's take your example 1 step further.

                    Can a gun be used for good? Yes
                    Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

                    Can a gun kill a person? No
                    Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

                    If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

                    yet guns aren't illegal.

                    But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

                    NOT the same thing at all.

                    Nothing inside the DragonBox is illegal. Not one thing (that we know of).

                    That box might be full of heroin, you don't know! 😉

                    LOL - that would be one hell of a deal if it's full of herion.. lol

                    Herion is cheap, so not really a deal. Now if it was a few pounds of pure uncut cocaine. . .

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                      @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                      @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                      @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                      @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                      Can a road be used for good? Yes
                      Can a road be used for crime? Yes

                      Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
                      Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

                      Change out road with car. Same result.

                      It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

                      Let's take your example 1 step further.

                      Can a gun be used for good? Yes
                      Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

                      Can a gun kill a person? No
                      Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

                      If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

                      yet guns aren't illegal.

                      But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

                      Dragonbox isn't selling stolen content. Irrelevant.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                        last edited by DustinB3403

                        @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                        @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                        @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                        @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                        @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                        @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                        Can a road be used for good? Yes
                        Can a road be used for crime? Yes

                        Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
                        Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

                        Change out road with car. Same result.

                        It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

                        Let's take your example 1 step further.

                        Can a gun be used for good? Yes
                        Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

                        Can a gun kill a person? No
                        Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

                        If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

                        yet guns aren't illegal.

                        But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

                        Dragonbox isn't selling stolen content. Irrelevant.

                        You're right, its selling easy access to stolen content.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @RojoLoco
                          last edited by

                          @rojoloco said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                          @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                          @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                          @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                          @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                          @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                          @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                          Can a road be used for good? Yes
                          Can a road be used for crime? Yes

                          Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
                          Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

                          Change out road with car. Same result.

                          It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

                          Let's take your example 1 step further.

                          Can a gun be used for good? Yes
                          Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

                          Can a gun kill a person? No
                          Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

                          If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

                          yet guns aren't illegal.

                          But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

                          NOT the same thing at all.

                          Nothing inside the DragonBox is illegal. Not one thing (that we know of).

                          That box might be full of heroin, you don't know! 😉

                          Maybe in your house!

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @DustinB3403
                            last edited by Obsolesce

                            @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                            @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                            @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                            @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                            @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                            @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                            @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                            Can a road be used for good? Yes
                            Can a road be used for crime? Yes

                            Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
                            Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

                            Change out road with car. Same result.

                            It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

                            Let's take your example 1 step further.

                            Can a gun be used for good? Yes
                            Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

                            Can a gun kill a person? No
                            Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

                            If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

                            yet guns aren't illegal.

                            But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

                            Dragonbox isn't selling stolen content. Irrelevant.

                            You're right, its selling easy access to stolen content.

                            No, it's no more easy access than Windows or Ubuntu provides, or uTorrent or whatever.

                            But easy access isn't stealing.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              Gun shops are legal, easy-access to guns.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                Can a road be used for good? Yes
                                Can a road be used for crime? Yes

                                Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
                                Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

                                Change out road with car. Same result.

                                It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

                                Let's take your example 1 step further.

                                Can a gun be used for good? Yes
                                Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

                                Can a gun kill a person? No
                                Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

                                If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

                                yet guns aren't illegal.

                                But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

                                Dragonbox isn't selling stolen content. Irrelevant.

                                You're right, its selling easy access to stolen content.

                                No, it's no more easy access than Windows or Ubuntu provides, or uTorrent or whatever.

                                Really, no more easy? Find me a PPV UFC fight tonight in 4K HD that I can easily just click "play" and not need to do anything else.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                  @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                  @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                  @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                  Can a road be used for good? Yes
                                  Can a road be used for crime? Yes

                                  Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
                                  Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

                                  Change out road with car. Same result.

                                  It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

                                  Let's take your example 1 step further.

                                  Can a gun be used for good? Yes
                                  Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

                                  Can a gun kill a person? No
                                  Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

                                  If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

                                  yet guns aren't illegal.

                                  But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

                                  Dragonbox isn't selling stolen content. Irrelevant.

                                  You're right, its selling easy access to stolen content.

                                  And that is not illegal.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                    @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                    @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                    @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                    @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                    Can a road be used for good? Yes
                                    Can a road be used for crime? Yes

                                    Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
                                    Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

                                    Change out road with car. Same result.

                                    It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

                                    Let's take your example 1 step further.

                                    Can a gun be used for good? Yes
                                    Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

                                    Can a gun kill a person? No
                                    Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

                                    If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

                                    yet guns aren't illegal.

                                    But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

                                    Dragonbox isn't selling stolen content. Irrelevant.

                                    You're right, its selling easy access to stolen content.

                                    No, it's no more easy access than Windows or Ubuntu provides, or uTorrent or whatever.

                                    Really, no more easy? Find me a PPV UFC fight tonight in 4K HD that I can easily just click "play" and not need to do anything else.

                                    No, that would be illegal.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                      Gun shops are legal, easy-access to guns.

                                      Gun shops have to perform background checks (at least in the US). So not as easy as just stealing all of the guns from the gun shop!

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                        @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                        Gun shops are legal, easy-access to guns.

                                        Gun shops have to perform background checks (at least in the US). So not as easy as just stealing all of the guns from the gun shop!

                                        Irrelevant.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                          @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                          @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                          @dashrender said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                          @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                          Can a road be used for good? Yes
                                          Can a road be used for crime? Yes

                                          Can DragonBox be used legally? Yes
                                          Can DragonBox be used illegally? Yes

                                          Change out road with car. Same result.

                                          It's the person committing the crime, not the object.

                                          Let's take your example 1 step further.

                                          Can a gun be used for good? Yes
                                          Can a gun be used for bad? Yes

                                          Can a gun kill a person? No
                                          Can a person wielding a gun kill a person? Yes

                                          If you make a gun easier to wield, then it's easier for people to be killed.

                                          yet guns aren't illegal.

                                          But selling stolen weapons is illegal!

                                          Dragonbox isn't selling stolen content. Irrelevant.

                                          You're right, its selling easy access to stolen content.

                                          No, it's no more easy access than Windows or Ubuntu provides, or uTorrent or whatever.

                                          Really, no more easy? Find me a PPV UFC fight tonight in 4K HD that I can easily just click "play" and not need to do anything else.

                                          No, that would be illegal.

                                          That is what this box offers.

                                          So where is your argument here?

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                            @tim_g said in DragonBox, Streaming Services, and Copyright:

                                            Gun shops are legal, easy-access to guns.

                                            Gun shops have to perform background checks (at least in the US). So not as easy as just stealing all of the guns from the gun shop!

                                            Irrelevant.

                                            Not at all irrelevant. You're stating its OK to do one thing, but not the other and the reversing the statement in the following post.

                                            FFS

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