Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
That does not change all the quoted replies. I already stated as much.
I said I could change the title, but it will not do any good because of thThat is what it is, agreed that it doesn't change the quoted replies. But for someone coming to the thread and looking at the title as the source of "topic", I think that it will do a lot. It will make it clear that the issue was dug into, that "scam" is the wrong term, that there was something wrong that was discovered (and fixed it seems), and that while things weren't perfect, it's not a malicious activity and someone should read down the history of the thread and see what the result was. Otherwise, it is tempting to see the thread, and the title, and just assume too much.
No change is perfect, but I think fixing the title can do a lot to clarify it.
FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
Well, more like hiding the fact that is clearly isn't a scam and you made a false statement.
I made a statement that was factual based on all the information I had at the time. I in no way made an intentionally false statement.
I will update the topic title at your request. I dislike doing so because of the implied financial pressure of an advertiser.
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@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
I will update the topic title at your request. I dislike doing so because of the implied financial pressure of an advertiser.
Actually you are going to get me in trouble, they aren't a paid advertiser and I was supposed to take down the ads, but I've been lazy.
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
I will update the topic title at your request. I dislike doing so because of the implied financial pressure of an advertiser.
Actually you are going to get me in trouble, they aren't a paid advertiser and I was supposed to take down the ads, but I've been lazy.
Well then, I can strike that statement.
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@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title
You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks
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@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title
You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks
!lol - Thank God!
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@scottalanmiller are we allowed to use their name on the forums or no?
I mean, I enjoy using SpiteWorks to call them out for the spiteful bastards they are, but still.
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@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title
You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks
!If this was shiteworks, the thread would have been zapped by overzealous mods at the beginning.
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@RojoLoco said in Skyetel is a scam:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title
You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks
!If this was shiteworks, the thread would have been zapped by overzealous mods at the beginning.
That's true, that we were able to have a discourse about it is what makes this special. That and the speed of the platform.
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@JaredBusch said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
I will update the topic title at your request. I dislike doing so because of the implied financial pressure of an advertiser.
Actually you are going to get me in trouble, they aren't a paid advertiser and I was supposed to take down the ads, but I've been lazy.
Well then, I can strike that statement.
And they are down. Hopefully the new scripts work, I break them about 25% of the time.
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@RojoLoco said in Skyetel is a scam:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title
You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks
!If this was shiteworks, the thread would have been zapped by overzealous mods at the beginning.
That's true, that we were able to have a discourse about it is what makes this special. That and the speed of the platform.
That and me being on hold for 2 hours allowing me the spare time to start to set up this SIP trunk.
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@JaredBusch said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@RojoLoco said in Skyetel is a scam:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title
You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks
!If this was shiteworks, the thread would have been zapped by overzealous mods at the beginning.
That's true, that we were able to have a discourse about it is what makes this special. That and the speed of the platform.
That and me being on hold for 2 hours allowing me the spare time to start to set up this SIP trunk.
LMAO, good timing.
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@JaredBusch don't forget that you have a negative balance, you need to top that up
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@JaredBusch don't forget that you have a negative balance, you need to top that up
@JaredBusch I just threw in some free Skyetel credit for the headache
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
I haven't checked in a while from home (on a proper computer) but do the ads show up here when using PiHole?
Yes, because they host them locally on ML itself.
Never knew that, interesting and incredibly sneaky. . .
Not sneaky at all. PiHole only blocks ad hosting services, not pictures. Using ad hosting services is sketchy, not having pictures.
Also it is sneaky. An ad is an advertisement, of which I want to see none of them. Hosting images of advertisements is sneaky in that they can't be blocked through conventional tools and without needing to go an extra step.
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@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
I haven't checked in a while from home (on a proper computer) but do the ads show up here when using PiHole?
Yes, because they host them locally on ML itself.
Never knew that, interesting and incredibly sneaky. . .
Not sneaky at all. PiHole only blocks ad hosting services, not pictures. Using ad hosting services is sketchy, not having pictures.
Also it is sneaky. An ad is an advertisement, of which I want to see none of them. Hosting images of advertisements is sneaky in that they can't be blocked through conventional tools and without needing to go an extra step.
This is not a new or hidden thing on ML. It was discussed a long time ago.
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@JaredBusch said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
I haven't checked in a while from home (on a proper computer) but do the ads show up here when using PiHole?
Yes, because they host them locally on ML itself.
Never knew that, interesting and incredibly sneaky. . .
Not sneaky at all. PiHole only blocks ad hosting services, not pictures. Using ad hosting services is sketchy, not having pictures.
Also it is sneaky. An ad is an advertisement, of which I want to see none of them. Hosting images of advertisements is sneaky in that they can't be blocked through conventional tools and without needing to go an extra step.
This is not a new or hidden thing on ML. It was discussed a long time ago.
It was not something I knew of, and while it may have been discussed it's new to me.
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@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
Hosting images of advertisements is sneaky in that they can't be blocked through conventional tools and without needing to go an extra step.
Not sneaky in the least. If YOUR ad blocking software isn't smart enough to block what YOU want, that is YOUR issue. Claiming that traditional, plain ads are sneaky because they don't go through some random third party company of your choice that does who knows what tracking with them isn't what sneaky means.
Just because your ad blocker product is actually and "ad service blocker" and either they scammed you or you were confused, does not make other people sneaky.
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@scottalanmiller sneaky is the act of circumventing the traditionally accept solution.
If I updated my Avatar to be an ad for some service I sold, would this not be a separate conversation regarding the need to "pay to advertise here" (granted this community may let it slide, just using that as an example).
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@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@JaredBusch said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
I haven't checked in a while from home (on a proper computer) but do the ads show up here when using PiHole?
Yes, because they host them locally on ML itself.
Never knew that, interesting and incredibly sneaky. . .
Not sneaky at all. PiHole only blocks ad hosting services, not pictures. Using ad hosting services is sketchy, not having pictures.
Also it is sneaky. An ad is an advertisement, of which I want to see none of them. Hosting images of advertisements is sneaky in that they can't be blocked through conventional tools and without needing to go an extra step.
This is not a new or hidden thing on ML. It was discussed a long time ago.
It was not something I knew of, and while it may have been discussed it's new to me.
It's not something you should have to know about. While it's totally public, both from having been discussed and you can just look at the website and tell (it's as public as public gets), it's also not fundamentally sneaky, it's as anti-sneaky as ads can possibly be. It's the definition of "not sneaky."
The problem is, you've created a false assumption about what an ad is and you have conflated "ad" with "tracking services hosted by companies like DoubleClick", which is simply not what an ad is. You don't feel that ads in print magazines are sneaky, right? But they don't come from a third party, they are right there on the paper.
Seems weird to call it sneaky when you look at what it actually is.
