MS to stop support for all but the most current version of IE as of Jan 2016
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They really need to do this. Companies using old versions of IE are the real problem, not IE itself. Since IE9 or so, IE might not be my favourite but it has been a very good browser. In the newest versions it is really excellent.
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We have had very little issues with IE 11 around here (save an update MS did about 4 months ago which killed performance if the website was doing things a certain, approved, way - it took MS 2 months to release a fix).
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My problem is all the B2B portals that only work right in old versions of IE.
I refuse to deal with that and I pushed IE11 out at my clients with WSUS.
Of course I am dealing with various things not working and finding workarounds for them.
From one point of view you could claim I was making myself more work, but I always push the blame back to the company that owns said portal and asking why they do not use standards. -
@scottalanmiller said:
They really need to do this. Companies using old versions of IE are the real problem, not IE itself. Since IE9 or so, IE might not be my favourite but it has been a very good browser. In the newest versions it is really excellent.
Yeah, that is true. So many applications are built exclusively for this version of Java or that version of IE, etc. The issue really isn't with IE releasing new versions, because as much as I love to hate on IE, it's been a solid browser since IE9 especially. I still don't use it unless I have to, but it's not like it once was. What this really comes down to is vendors don't want to pay for continued development/maintenance on their products to keep them working with the latest versions of IE. Then they force their clients to use outdated/antiquated software to compensate.
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@JaredBusch said:
My problem is all the B2B portals that only work right in old versions of IE.
I refuse to deal with that and I pushed IE11 out at my clients with WSUS.
Of course I am dealing with various things not working and finding workarounds for them.
From one point of view you could claim I was making myself more work, but I always push the blame back to the company that owns said portal and asking why they do not use standards.And thankfully, Microsoft now joins in that fight against that legacy browser code. We really needed this. Microsoft's support of ancient browsers was enabling companies to do ridiculous things both internally and externally.
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It's about time. It's a shame that businesses can just pass the buck on the end users.
I have experienced support saying stupid stuff like, you shouldn't have gotten Windows Vista, 7 or Windows 8. And then proceed to tell the client or tech that MS broke the website.
I know for a fact that anyone using MS IE for creating a website has the ability to get the beta or developers version before the final draft comes out. They could be working on their website before the launch.
Last client I had to set compatablity settings in IE to read the page as IE7...ridiculous!
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
My problem is all the B2B portals that only work right in old versions of IE.
I refuse to deal with that and I pushed IE11 out at my clients with WSUS.
Of course I am dealing with various things not working and finding workarounds for them.
From one point of view you could claim I was making myself more work, but I always push the blame back to the company that owns said portal and asking why they do not use standards.And thankfully, Microsoft now joins in that fight against that legacy browser code. We really needed this. Microsoft's support of ancient browsers was enabling companies to do ridiculous things both internally and externally.
It just comes down to companies being lazy and cheap. The idea of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" seems to get logged in a lot of companies minds. They feel that if it works now, and MS releases a new version of IE and suddenly it doesn't work, that means it's MS' problem. The reality is that MS is setting the standards. If IE11 is going to be the standard come January 2016, companies need to realize that it is THEIR responsibility to make sure their product works with those standards. While I may not agree with everything MS does or how they do it, companies that feel that forcing their clients to use outdated software so that their software can work is just asinine. Again, it's just lazy.
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There's a real chance that IE 11 won't be the minimum. By then Windows 10 will be out, and assuming MS released IE 12 for Windows 7 at roughly the same time, IE 12 will be the minimum. Though Vista is in extended support until sometime in 2017 - soooo..
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@Dashrender said:
There's a real chance that IE 11 won't be the minimum. By then Windows 10 will be out, and assuming MS released IE 12 for Windows 7 at roughly the same time, IE 12 will be the minimum. Though Vista is in extended support until sometime in 2017 - soooo..
Kind of odd they are extending support for Vista considering how few places used it.
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@technobabble said:
It's about time. It's a shame that businesses can just pass the buck on the end users.
I have experienced support saying stupid stuff like, you shouldn't have gotten Windows Vista, 7 or Windows 8. And then proceed to tell the client or tech that MS broke the website.
I know for a fact that anyone using MS IE for creating a website has the ability to get the beta or developers version before the final draft comes out. They could be working on their website before the launch.
Last client I had to set compatablity settings in IE to read the page as IE7...ridiculous!
At my last job I seriously considered murdering the developer who created our internal portal. All browsers mangled it save IE7 (or forced compat view). Justifiable homicide would be my defence.
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@MattSpeller said:
@technobabble said:
It's about time. It's a shame that businesses can just pass the buck on the end users.
I have experienced support saying stupid stuff like, you shouldn't have gotten Windows Vista, 7 or Windows 8. And then proceed to tell the client or tech that MS broke the website.
I know for a fact that anyone using MS IE for creating a website has the ability to get the beta or developers version before the final draft comes out. They could be working on their website before the launch.
Last client I had to set compatablity settings in IE to read the page as IE7...ridiculous!
At my last job I seriously considered murdering the developer who created our internal portal. All browsers mangled it save IE7 (or forced compat view). Justifiable homicide would be my defence.
I think that if you work IT, you should be tried for any crime you commit by a judge and/or jury who understands IT. We probably would get away with murder though...
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One of the obscure things I like about Windows 8 is the ability to easily create an app that uses a Windows 8 mode on IE with pre-configured settings. I see this being the way of the future.
We have a call center that just helps our members with Online banking. The call center isn't technical so we run into browser issues all the time. It would be great to have everyone that owns a Windows PC with Windows 8 or higher to just download an app with our preconfigured settings. No more which version of IE, Chrome, Opera, or FF are you using and all the variables that go with it.
