Windows 10 Release; July 29
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@MattSpeller said:
I really really hope they get it right this time and don't have another vista.
This is NT 6.4. They really only have the "this is horrible" issues on X.0 release (Windows 2000 - NT 5.0, Windows Vista - NT 6.0.) It's mostly the shock of the new system that makes people upset. Windows 10 can't be a "new Vista" as it is actually the latest update or patch to Vista!
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@scottalanmiller said:
This is NT 6.4. They really only have the "this is horrible" issues on X.0 release (Windows 2000 - NT 5.0, Windows Vista - NT 6.0.) It's mostly the shock of the new system that makes people upset. Windows 10 can't be a "new Vista" as it is actually the latest update or patch to Vista!
Surprisingly I find myself less concerned with "will it work" - I'm pretty confident it will.
Mostly I fear the public's reaction to it. Also I'm not a huge tile fan.
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The public never likes anything that is new, that's just how they are. For the most part, every Windows release works. Even Vista worked pretty well, people just reacted poorly to it. They had had XP for so long without a change and XP was really pretty close to 2000 before it so the changes had been pretty minor for a pretty long time by the time that Vista came out. I wonder if the biggest blunder with Vista was attempting to ride on XP's coattails for too long?
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller said:
This is NT 6.4. They really only have the "this is horrible" issues on X.0 release (Windows 2000 - NT 5.0, Windows Vista - NT 6.0.) It's mostly the shock of the new system that makes people upset. Windows 10 can't be a "new Vista" as it is actually the latest update or patch to Vista!
Surprisingly I find myself less concerned with "will it work" - I'm pretty confident it will.
Mostly I fear the public's reaction to it. Also I'm not a huge tile fan.
I am most excited about the "universal app" concept and the potentially easy way to convert Android/iPhone apps over to mobile/tablet OS. Really interested in this the most...time will tell.
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@StrongBad said:
The public never likes anything that is new, that's just how they are. For the most part, every Windows release works. Even Vista worked pretty well, people just reacted poorly to it. They had had XP for so long without a change and XP was really pretty close to 2000 before it so the changes had been pretty minor for a pretty long time by the time that Vista came out. I wonder if the biggest blunder with Vista was attempting to ride on XP's coattails for too long?
The problem that I (and a lot of other folks had) with Vista was simply that it did not work well. My computer was constantly crashing, random apps would crash, and the whole things just ran slow in general, even after a fresh install. Switch back to XP or upgrade to 7 and the problems went away.
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@dafyre I used Vista for nearly six years at a big bank and never had an issue with it. Was rock solid when patched and used as directed. There were some issues on first release, which was not too surprising considering it was such a leap into the NT 6 family from the NT 5 family and there had been so much time in between. But by the time that Windows 7 was out, Vista had all of that stability back ported. They were really on parity pretty much the entire era. Considering Windows 7 was only a minor update to Vista, it is not surprising that nearly everything made it back to Vista.
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@StrongBad said:
The public never likes anything that is new, that's just how they are. For the most part, every Windows release works. Even Vista worked pretty well, people just reacted poorly to it. They had had XP for so long without a change and XP was really pretty close to 2000 before it so the changes had been pretty minor for a pretty long time by the time that Vista came out. I wonder if the biggest blunder with Vista was attempting to ride on XP's coattails for too long?
I defended Vista early on until I started having the "Vista Issues"...the biggest one, and one they never resolved was, that even after many rebuilds, if I would right click something in file explorer to get the context menu, it could take 1-2 minutes for context menu to show up...
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Never saw that one. Did not get too many new installs, only a handful over the years.
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@garak0410 said:
@g.jacobse said:
I have not seen Build 10159 as of yet, still on 10158 -
I have been having some issues of late - however I can not say they are with the Win10 build
Well, hang on...10162 just released now...
Say WHAT?
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@scottalanmiller Among my peers, you would be in the minority. We simply didn't have good results with it at all. I know that's not a scientific study, lol. But we tend to stick with what we know works, so at my last place, we largely waited for Windows 7, IIRC.
I'll probably just go ahead and upgrade to Windows 10 on my laptop when it comes out. I have a good backup of it now (Veeam Endpoint, FTW!), so I'm safe, lol.
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We had over 100,000 people using it. I'm sure many had problems. But in the hundreds of people that I was in contact with I can't remember hearing of any complaints. And we ran it from nearly right at release until Windows 8 was out for a bit.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre I used Vista for nearly six years at a big bank and never had an issue with it. Was rock solid when patched and used as directed. There were some issues on first release, which was not too surprising considering it was such a leap into the NT 6 family from the NT 5 family and there had been so much time in between. But by the time that Windows 7 was out, Vista had all of that stability back ported. They were really on parity pretty much the entire era. Considering Windows 7 was only a minor update to Vista, it is not surprising that nearly everything made it back to Vista.
Hey me too. The only reason I moved to Windows 7 at work when I did was because my HD crashed. I loved Vista at the time.
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@Dashrender said:
Hey me too. The only reason I moved to Windows 7 at work when I did was because my HD crashed. I loved Vista at the time.
I wouldn't say that I loved it, but it was perfectly fine. I had Windows 7 and then 8 at home and would have preferred that they stayed up to date. But it was better than XP and no one seemed to have any issues with it.
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Well I only loved it until Windows 7 came out.
Vista did have issues on initial release, most of which were completely fixed in SP1.
The strange thing for me was that OEM installs for the only time in history actually worked better than formatting and starting it over and only installing the drivers from the manufacture.
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@Dashrender said:
Well I only loved it until Windows 7 came out.
Vista did have issues on initial release, most of which were completely fixed in SP1.
The strange thing for me was that OEM installs for the only time in history actually worked better than formatting and starting it over and only installing the drivers from the manufacture.
I also liked vista but it was really slow on even moderate hardware for the day - that's what killed it more than anything else IMHO. XP could run circles around it for speed on cheaper hardware.
