Better Computer Case Or...
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If you need gear like that on a shop floor the de facto answer is VDI. Not always the answer, but it is the place where most people would look first. Put a low cost, fanless thin client or zero client on the shop floor and put the hefty gear where it is protected like in a server closet - clear, cool area and physically secure too.
The natural reaction is VDI. But you could do just a remote desktop with a physical desktop being used - just remotely. That way you keep the gear you have, keep the model that you have, keep the approach that you have but you make everything more flexible.
Remote access could be RDP, NX, ICA, something special or even a distance KVM connection.
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Switching to Thin Clients + RDP is not a bad thing. AutoCAD 2015, and ArcGIS, and Adobe Cloud Suite all run great over RDP on a system that has a good graphics card. It's not 100% perfect, but it's the best I've seen in a while. I can't speak to NX or ICA.
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I like the VDI idea and I fully plan on pushing that, however, my current push if 1st for server virtualization which is something that will be happening next year. After I get that all figured out, I do really want to look into vdi, I think it would be a perfect fit for us. But we are not there quite yet.
I think I am going to look into something like nic posted for now. I have been lucky that the environment has not taken out any expensive parts yet. I know this will change.....so I want to remedy the problem until I can come up with a REAL solution.
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Just racking your existing desktops into the server closet and getting thin clients onto the desks now would be a way to fix things immediately while getting people used to the way that things work so that you have a fix now while getting ready for VDI someday.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Just racking your existing desktops into the server closet and getting thin clients onto the desks now would be a way to fix things immediately while getting people used to the way that things work so that you have a fix now while getting ready for VDI someday.
Wish I had space for that right now, I am working on installing a relay rack in my server room and its a bit in shambles right now. Good idea though. I will most likely explore that a bit more when I am done with my current project.
Just for fun, here is some of my what I have done!
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@bbiAngie That looks pretty sharp!
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@scottalanmiller said:
If you need gear like that on a shop floor the de facto answer is VDI. Not always the answer, but it is the place where most people would look first. Put a low cost, fanless thin client or zero client on the shop floor and put the hefty gear where it is protected like in a server closet - clear, cool area and physically secure too.
The natural reaction is VDI. But you could do just a remote desktop with a physical desktop being used - just remotely. That way you keep the gear you have, keep the model that you have, keep the approach that you have but you make everything more flexible.
Remote access could be RDP, NX, ICA, something special or even a distance KVM connection.
Or a remote dell precision rack mount computer. What are they doing engineering stuff on the shop floor anyway? That's odd. Usually you finalize that stuff for approval and then just feed it into the machines.
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Oh yeah, moving to rack mount desktop chassis are even better.
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@Jason said:
@scottalanmiller said:
If you need gear like that on a shop floor the de facto answer is VDI. Not always the answer, but it is the place where most people would look first. Put a low cost, fanless thin client or zero client on the shop floor and put the hefty gear where it is protected like in a server closet - clear, cool area and physically secure too.
The natural reaction is VDI. But you could do just a remote desktop with a physical desktop being used - just remotely. That way you keep the gear you have, keep the model that you have, keep the approach that you have but you make everything more flexible.
Remote access could be RDP, NX, ICA, something special or even a distance KVM connection.
Or a remote dell precision rack mount computer. What are they doing engineering stuff on the shop floor anyway? That's odd. Usually you finalize that stuff for approval and then just feed it into the machines.
Yes I know its strange. We are a precision machine shop. We are pretty unique in that we are doing tolerances less than .0005”. Sometimes this means making changes on the fly to account for various issues that arise in the machining process. 90% of the stuff is done in engineering. But one of the engineers is also the owner who wants to be able to be at just about any machine and be able to make these changes without it being slow.
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@bbiAngie said:
@Jason said:
@scottalanmiller said:
If you need gear like that on a shop floor the de facto answer is VDI. Not always the answer, but it is the place where most people would look first. Put a low cost, fanless thin client or zero client on the shop floor and put the hefty gear where it is protected like in a server closet - clear, cool area and physically secure too.
The natural reaction is VDI. But you could do just a remote desktop with a physical desktop being used - just remotely. That way you keep the gear you have, keep the model that you have, keep the approach that you have but you make everything more flexible.
Remote access could be RDP, NX, ICA, something special or even a distance KVM connection.
Or a remote dell precision rack mount computer. What are they doing engineering stuff on the shop floor anyway? That's odd. Usually you finalize that stuff for approval and then just feed it into the machines.
Yes I know its strange. We are a precision machine shop. We are pretty unique in that we are doing tolerances less than .0005”. Sometimes this means making changes on the fly to account for various issues that arise in the machining process. 90% of the stuff is done in engineering. But one of the engineers is also the owner who wants to be able to be at just about any machine and be able to make these changes without it being slow.
This is where VDI shines... have a thin client just about anywhere and anytime that user logs in they get the same power/speed as when they are at their desk.
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Here is a computer built for situations like this: http://linuxgizmos.com/compact-rugged-pc-packs-xeon-heat-keeps-cool-fanlessly/
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@mlnews said:
Here is a computer built for situations like this: http://linuxgizmos.com/compact-rugged-pc-packs-xeon-heat-keeps-cool-fanlessly/
That is neat. Few know some may,.. but homes were build similarly to this. at least for a period of time.
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Without fans?
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@scottalanmiller No with their own cooling systems in hot areas of the world. Not central AC etc, but actually vented walls.
